Monday, 7 January 2008

Thailand. When a disagreement could mean a gun as a mediator.

Last night I ventured with my mate Keith to our usual little hangout on a Saturday and Sunday night to watch the FA Cup football. It is 300 metres away from my place and near all the food stalls in the street opposite Big C shopping centre.

We are both too tight to pay 2,200 baht per month to watch the football on True Move pay TV. We get a few games on cable TV each weekend which costs 350 baht per month for 66 channels. Even if they are showing a game we want to watch we still go to the shop as it gets us out of the house and away from our better halves and in Keith’s case the kids.

The guy who owns the shop is called Tong and it is like a little convenience store that sells some grocery items, snack foods and of course drinks. On the weekend if there is a popular game on there will be a large crowd gathered and the beer is going out of the fridge and eskies really quick. We don’t drink and I always get a 2 litre bottle of Coke or Pepsi and Keith has a bottle of water. We order food from one of the many shops across the road and they bring it across to us, you cannot get better service than that.

Last night being Sunday we went to watch the FA Cup game between Burnley and Arsenal. It was a good game and there were only a few of us there with most not bothering to venture out and watch the game. The team on top of the premier league won being Arsenal 2-0 but it didn’t do justice to how unlucky Burnley were, they played good football and didn’t have any luck or could have caused a huge upset.

Anyway we were sitting at our table when we heard a glass smash at the little shop about 50-60 metres down the street. I thought someone had knocked a glass off a table but Keith said “look a fight”. I have never seen a fight or a scuffle in all the time I have been going to Tong’s shop in over a year. It wasn’t really a fight but a wrestling match as no punches were thrown.

A guy sitting at a table with Tong who is friends with the owner of the other shop jumped to his feet and took off. He ran down there and helped his friend by grabbing the guy being wrestled in a headlock. The friend of the guy in a headlock ran to their car parked nearby and came back with a little bag that had a shoulder strap and looked a bit like a purse. He had his right hand in the nag and the cry of (Boon) went up meaning gun. He kept his hand in the bag and made a stop signal with his free hand to the two guys wrestling his mate.

Another guy and then ran to the car and returned with his hand in his jacket pocket like he had a gun in there. He too was motioning to them to stop and they did and released the guy from the headlock. The two guys with the guns or pretend guns never actually showed a weapon but being here in Thailand most Thai guys carry weapons and they do not hesitate to use them.

If you look at the firearm homicide rates per 100,000 inhabitants you may be surprised as to where Thailand is. This is for a list of 60 countries.

Now this is should be no surprise to anyone that:

South Africa is 1st with 74.57 deaths per 100,000 people.

Columbia was 2nd with 51.77 deaths per 100,000 people.

Thailand was 3rd with 33 deaths per 100,000 people.

Then there was Guatemala 18.05, Brazil with 10.58 and then the rest came in under 10 per 100,000 List of countries by firearm-related deaths.

Did these two guys have guns, I don’t think so. If they did I am sure that one would have pulled the gun out and shown it. Most of the people didn’t seem too concerned about what was happening and there were only a few people watching what was going on.

The problem here in Thailand is you don’t know who has a gun. A lovely English lady who is a teacher where I work once said this to her husband.

“Why don’t you beep your horn at people who cut you off?”

He replied “I don’t know who has a gun.”

This is a Thai mans outlook at beeping your horn at one of the many idiotic and selfish drivers on Thai roads. I jump on the horn of my motorbike and use body language and sign language to any fool that cuts me off or puts me in danger. I let the idiots know.

On my motorbike I don’t have a weapon to defend myself if needed. If I have my bag I carry my favourite little thing which is my extendable solid steel baton. The ones you see police carry. It’s just a little too big and uncomfortable to put into your pocket but goes into my jacket fine.

At home I have a lovely Clint Eastwood that stays very close to the bed and goes with us on any longer drives as you never know what can happen. I hope I never have to reach for it little only use it. If I ever felt threatened or was worried about a loved one being in danger I wouldn’t hesitate or blink an eye.

I have told myself many times to try and be Thai and do the Mai Pen Rai thing. I can only do it doesn’t matter so often before I need someone who has endangered my life that they know of this. Usual when I have just blasted the horn for a good 4-5 seconds and pulled up along side the offender and I am giving him/her the sign language for “look” and then maybe the sign language for “you are a dickhead” I think how stupid it was and what if it was someone who snapped at losing some face to a farang and he decides to flip out.

I know it isn’t worth it and I tell myself this all the time but it cannot get through my thick skull. I am hoping with a little more time I will become one of those Thais that say “never mind” to anything that might cause the slightest ripple of conflict.

Brunty

4 comments:

Issarat said...

Brunty,
You will live a long and healthy life by taking your own advice about the 'let it go' type of attitude; it just is not worth it. No matter how many horn blasts or gestures you make; the driving habits of the thais WILL NOT change, it is you that will have to change.
Just the way it goes...mai pen rai (again):-)

juan alberto isern said...

i am quite surprised a farang can own a gun in thailand, as i heard it is difficult to get a license. In spain you must go under many papers, and pass a psicological test to get a license.
not afraid of police find you with a gun on you?

juan alberto isern said...

the times i have been in thailand, i never had the feeling of be in danger, as i had for example in brazil, during the night, i think the statistics of firearms related deaths have to be interpreted.
thailand has a figure of 33 by 100.000 inhabitants in 2000, but perhaps it include deaths by terrorisms in the south, or guerrilla near myanmar border, This put thailand, near colombia, that is a true violent country, as one uncle of mine worked there during a year, and was provided with two bodyguards by their company, and was advised not to walk alone by the street.
i think is unfair compare thailand with countries as colombia or brazil.

Brunty said...

Franky I agree with you and try hard to not get worked up too much but sometimes the real idiots on the road just push me too far and I have to toot them to let them know they are fools.

It is very hard to own a gun in Thailand. I have some good friends in brown and I own my gun as a sporting shooter. I have it as I shoot in competition some times. I am a member of a local gun club.

To own a gun in Australia is a huge thing now and for the best. The sad thing here in Thailand it is so easy to obtain a gun on the black market.

Gun related murders in Thailand are very regular believe me. In the Thai papers they are run all the time but don't make it into the English papers often.

I too have been in Thailand for a long time and never felt really threatened but I have it just in case, I have read too many bad stories in the papers and just want to be on the safe side.

I know rating Thailand to Columbia, Brazil is hard as these places are very dangerous. Even Mexico came in under 10 deaths in every 100,000 people.

I feel very safe in Isaan but when I travel I am not so sure or even in Pattaya or Bangkok. There are many very desperate people in some of these areas and they will do almost anything to get money for their next hit or drink.

Thailand is a safe place if you are smart and don't go certain places or act certain ways.

Thanks for commenting.

Brunty